Sprinting & why your company needs to let you do it

button has been pressed yay hello

bridging and why your company needs to

let you do it and this is the session

where I thought I bring together a lot

of people who drilled out of

contributions and talk about what

Sprint's are why they're important why

you should care why you should go to his

friend and maybe share some stories from

the sprint battlefield

[Laughter]

I'm Sarah Thrasher I'm a front-end

architect at Acquia I actually do a lot

less right thing that I used to click on

a three-year-old now life

I'm conser or Scott Drupal solutions

lead at digital echidna and also a

Drupal 8 core committee yet Steve Hirsch

lead developer advocate at Pantheon

before we can't Pantheon have worked

first as a freelance developer and then

a few agencies here in Chicago

mighty bites and Palantir dotnet I am a

back-end developer and is really

kidnapped at Nashville which is my

second time mentoring but I guess I went

really well last time what's this for a

lot of us

water sprays why is it my job a lot a

lot of people coming together in a room

to work on various things together it is

often but not always code there's

there's other kinds of sprinting you can

do you can do particularly documentation

you can get together you can work on

designs and UX UX testing like basically

anything having to do with like project

collaboration with other people and

Sprint's are often held at events like

Drupal cams Drupal con but sometimes

there's just one office or sometimes

there's events like the Midwest

developer summit for example that is

usually an Ann Arbor and her husband

recently anyway and that's a much more

sprint focused event with little to no

presentations and just all about

sprinting there's also like an annual

sprint day that happens all the joopa

local meetups will all have a sprint

event in their local area and then

people will come and they'll all work

I'm like moving maybe why don't you

forward or one module or something that

they held virtually yeah I think it's

early on there because

we passed it already yeah Michael and

sometimes companies will host regular

ones so a couple places that work I've

had like in office either like you know

beginner sprints are just like you know

get local people together to do some of

our things but it's not always feel like

um you know like this is a big like

Drupal for that it can it can happen at

like your local community level - mm-hmm

January January hmm so just do people

know what Sprint's are now that make

sense yeah typically so one of the kind

of definitions like that is I guess

agreed upon in our community is that

it's usually there's some sort of a

focus like shorter focused amount of

work so I think successful Sprint's

anyway typically have some sort of goal

in mind so whether it's like working on

a specific initiative let's say in

Drupal core or like porting a module or

like working on a specific feature but

at the same time if you have a lot of

people you don't necessarily need to

have one goal you can split up into like

if it's a Drupal con for example you can

have you know one table as media and

another table is you know twig or

whatever and and everyone's just getting

stuff done learning

so we've talked about what Sprint's are

so so wash you care why should why

should you care I guess one of the

things that I learned from the mentoring

team was that whenever someone walks

into the spare room and doesn't really

know where to go they ask them like

what's the one problem you have looking

for like what's something that really

really bugs you and then like direct

them to the right table that might be

working on something like that so they

can fix the thing that bugs them and

then that then you feel like really

accomplished that you like contributed

back so it's like the sort of scratch

your own itch research and then another

another approach would be to kind of say

like typically like people that events

like this they'll have some sort of

expertise even if it's not in Drupal but

you know maybe they're Mauricio gave a

lightning talk yesterday and he was

talking about people who come to his

beginner sessions and then they're maybe

they've been like a database

administrator for twenty years so like

they know a lot about databases even if

they don't necessarily know a lot about

Drupal so seeing someone come into the

sprint you can ask you know what what

are you strong at what do you enjoy

doing and that can be used to kind of

help point them in a direction towards

like oh hey these people are working on

the database abstraction layer for

Drupal maybe maybe they would really be

able to use your skills in something

that they're working on if you're at

something like Drupal con or med camp it

also gives you an opportunity to

actually use the things you don't listen

to talk about like neatly after hearing

about them so like I think it's really a

selfish angle or educational yeah yeah

and I think just just in terms of core

and even though in modules like if

you're if you start to from a code

perspective if you start to look at and

look at the guts of the things that you

use every day like if you you know start

to look at the guts of the routing

system or something that powers you know

you know you hit a URL and then it

translates that into a certain

controller in Drupal like you can learn

the inner workings of that and then if

you run into some kind of weird behavior

in a day to day maybe you can be like oh

that's you know this this route object

doing this thing so I know how to at

least debug that or I know where to

start

we're free to email about it or slack or

witch or even yeah which sort of which

category in the issue queue to start

looking at even can be helpful yeah I

sometimes use sprint days as a time to

experiment with whatever was the cool

thing that I've learned about conference

or camp I think I think the most

successful and sense of that was that

was DrupalCon Los Angeles where I've

seen a presentation about visual

regression testing like taking

screenshots of two different versions of

a site and I've heard about it before

Brett never like dedicated time to it so

I thought well here's here's a day where

I've got basically eight hours blocked

off and there's nothing like I really

need to get done this is just like a

time for me to develop professionally I

was gonna try that that tool that I saw

presentation on and there are people in

the room and maybe I could ask for help

and find people interested in the same

thing but like I got it to work

I had the Drupal 7 side that like had a

bunch of out-of-date modules and I just

wanted to like safely and update all

these modules hmm and the part that made

it most satisfying was actually called

regression like I updated panelizer and

one content type I was like 10 kind

printed twice then I wouldn't've

wouldn't have caught that had I just

like manually clicked around so being

able to get my hands on this cool tool

that I've just heard about immediately

after was was really satisfying

here's what the needs are in successful

in your mind I guess I haven't really

sprinted hmm I've always had I've had

this bad luck where we go to this print

my laptop will die so I will work good

so now and my kind of shoulder sprint

and then I'm done with the mentoring so

I think I come from two Springs from a

different perspective and that's like

watching other people solve issues and

like watching someone who comes in and

says like I don't know what triple is

and I just went to the other room and

got my laptop set up and and I'm here

what do I do

and we usually take them through what we

call the triage sprint which is going

through an issue and determining whether

it's still critical issue and maybe

doing some of the testing steps and like

updating the issue and I remember last

year at Vienna someone did that they

were so excited at the end of it that

was for me like the reason why I mentor

just to like see the person feels so

successful tomorrow like when I see

other people care like yeah this is why

I'm here I almost always wind up doing

like the mentor side of things really

helping like local dev environment set

up more than doing actual like having

myself but that's really seeing people

like make connections with each other

and I think that's why I really liked

Midwest and summit button so we had time

to like actually I would definitely not

coming to an event that was all

spreading those sessions Midwest

through an issue versus a sneaker that's

like someone paces yeah ten minutes it's

hash it out yeah it'd be hard to solve

hard problems without a whiteboard yeah

have a discussion and it's not

asynchronous and even even on video

calls it's just not the same saying the

people live wrong yeah we're gonna have

go off try to turn approaches come back

evaluate the approaches sprints are

really good for heart like hard problems

and then you get to meet people and I

think one thing that I've had happened a

lot

just over the years of going to

different Drupal cons and events is like

is people coming up to me and you know

maybe asking for an issue to work on and

then it's it's a lot of times people

will sort of say like oh sorry like I

haven't been active in the issue cues

like since last people con it's like I

just always have to be like no it's fine

like it's like you don't have to like

work on Drupal every day like it's

awesome that you're at this print like

yeah we'll find you something to work on

but I've had a lot of people sort of

apologize for like not I'm sorry well

where did your twelve months since my

last sprint for like dropping the ball

like let's say they started on something

at Rubicon and then you know they went

back to their life like that's totally

fine like you probably moved that issue

forward yeah and that's awesome yeah

which is I mean it's good that people

are thinking about that but yeah the

guilt is not needed here now yeah this

light was more meant to be like what

happens at contributions friends at

DrupalCon or outside

and just like an overview is like you'd

come in if you have it done usual before

you generally go to the first time

workshop will they'll set you up with

the tools and install Drupal on your

laptop then once you're done with that

you kind of graduate to either go to the

mentoring sprint which is where you'll

have like a mentor and there will be a

table of people working on a specific

thing or the contributions printer yes

friends they call it where everyone's

kind of doing it's usually more topical

so like if you know you want to work on

X you know you can go to X table and and

even if you're new you still you have

all the tools and everything there so

they'll and they'll usually be people

there that can still help you and like

you know get you something to work on

and yeah and I think like what you

mentioned about like the workshop that

doesn't happen at every event but Drupal

con has been doing that for a long time

so your experience may vary because it's

it's sort of at the end of the day it's

up to the sprint organizers like how

they run it so sometimes it's just gonna

be giant room and you know go to a

random table or something and just

sometimes you have to kind of just ask

around and say hey what are you working

on what are you working on and then you

can just find something that sounds

interesting to you hopefully like the

more successful sprint events actually

have a lot of work going on in the

background with people trying to find

like lists of issues yeah people get

sort of a pre pre preparation yeah it's

actually a lot of work yeah yeah one of

the issues that different skill levels

can tackle yeah that's sometimes more

complex than figuring out if you have

solve issues

yeah yeah it sounds like there's a need

for Sprint's to solve like the hardest

problems and rupal because you got all

the core committers there perhaps and

they can work out the hardest thing

y'all seem to identify perhaps the

easiest issues in drupal where yeah the

goal isn't to like fix a complex bug the

goal is to get new people in the

community comfortable just but like yeah

the kooky workflow like a one-line CSS

patch yeah where they're like the hard

part the thing being figured I was just

like how do I make the patch yeah yeah

because that's I think that's to me

that's the biggest thing that like once

you know the process of how the issue

queue works and like how you how you

submit a patch and sort of the workflow

that that then sort of happens after

that I think once you're comfortable

with that then you're kind of free to

you know explore what you want so

usually like if someone if I'm mentoring

someone out of sprin I'll try and find

something that's you know kind of

topical for them or something that

they're gonna be interested in but at

the same time I'll often say like hey

like here's just like a small thing like

a triage is a good example but like even

like a small patch like you're like you

can do this it's not like may be right

up your alley but you can learn the

process and then once you learn the

process then you can kind of like dig

into you know whatever area is really

interesting to you because then you'll

be like oh I know how to make a patch

and so on or other people's tax or test

okay cuz we oh yeah that's that's the

other things like yeah there we always

need people to review so I think that's

one one thing we're like triage becomes

really valuable

um cuz oftentimes like someone will put

up a patch but then it just can kind of

sit there for a while and maybe good

comes out dated or it's not everybody's

favorite topic so it's just sort of

hanging out yeah and then in terms of

just like contribution sprints some at

some of the events - you'll have a live

commit - usually core but I've you know

potentially that's - like a module or

something so that would be usually

and the committer would kind of go up on

some sort of stage usually and kind of

walk through the process of how they

would evaluate an issue or a patch and

that's sort of a whole process to - to

Michael's point earlier of like the

preparation because that took like you

you want to do something that people

worked on that day but it's usually it's

got to be something small and like low

risk and it's it's kind of that's the

whole thing that happens kind of behind

the scenes that like DrupalCon is like

people start to build out a spreadsheet

of here's some potential issues that we

could do fit alive commit but that's

that's kind of fun you get like a drunk

goodbye friend cat got to do that her

first yeah yeah she was so excited it's

fun I got to do a live commit at New

Orleans but it was like it was basically

a one-line CSS patch if not no it was

CSS but I went through like I didn't use

any of shortcuts that I would use on my

computer and I can went through like

very in-depth like here's the

documentation that I refer to and here's

the process it was a very long life come

in but like yeah yeah because it I think

it it's it's an opportunity to kind of

see the other side of it because like

sometimes yeah you'll just put up a

patch really quickly and that's really

cool but yeah just to know sometimes

that you know maybe some of the reasons

why something might get sent back and

it's not it's nothing personal it's just

there's a lot of standards and things

what if I'm new to Drupal yeah so we

mentioned this earlier but at Drupal

cons usually will have the first time

sprinters wear a chapel

you'll get it set up on our laptop

you've gotta enjoy to Drupal and intro

to the tools I usually add camps like

Scott mentioned there might not be like

a designated person or time for that

happens you might have to ask Graham be

like hey I'm you I am in sprinted before

and most likely someone will be more

than happy to help you yeah although if

you're a camp organisers you can

actually make this happen right maybe

not on the same scale that ripple condo

yeah that's like something that you can

like take responsibility for having I

just have a sign like if you are new

maybe get set up yeah you know backed up

by people who don't actually do that

yeah but then there's there's other

things aside from from coding that you

can do like my actual first sporting

experience at a purple tunnel is the

docs print and I think it was like a

really similar type of experience to

code Sprint's that I've been to where

like people were very willing to like

you know walk everybody through all the

things me like have a gonna count on you

know in the first place and you know

what you can edit and you know like

making sure that like recognized users

that like you're not a spamela fine yeah

you know an existing user can get around

that like waiting period I like just you

know saying yes this is a real person

yeah you know so I think there was

people doing that for each other and

raised you know just like yeah

documentation is important to everybody

to like you know that's like a lot of

people's first stab at like trailer

how to do stuff and what people are

telling people at the docs brent was

being new it's actually better yeah

things like that because yeah everybody

who's been doing Drupal for a long time

just is kind of used to the way that

stuff is and like already knows all

their shortcuts and everything but when

you're new like you're getting all these

fresh impressions and issues that you

have and you can like look at the

documentation ago doesn't make sense and

then how could I make this make sense

and somebody who does know how to do it

and like you know really beefed up that

that experience for others yeah that's a

great point and yeah I think a lot of

the time like if you see a Sprint posted

like let's say it's at your local meetup

or something there's sort of a template

that I think is probably still used

today where it's like you know if you've

ever used Drupal like you can you can

contribute basically even even if you

just like clicked around with things

like like you said like you can help

with documentation there's all kinds of

even just testing triage like you could

test to try and go through the steps of

to reproduce a bug or maybe there is a

bug report but it doesn't have the steps

needed to reproduce and you can come up

with that and take screenshots and like

there's always there's always stuff like

that that's helpful to move an issue

forward and figure out the next steps

for an issue make sure that somebody who

like solved an issue didn't create to

other issues somewhere else yeah yeah

and do the first few sprints I went to I

had it in my head like I have got to

write a patch today like this is this is

only worthwhile I was only successful if

I opposed a patch and he gets committed

and that was not does not help at least

what I am a first-time sprinter see

above yeah it's it's don't worry yeah

and even like yeah for this that

transitions I think the nicely into the

next one like what should I bring you

know we talked about like people can

help you get stuff set up on your laptop

but if you don't have a laptop that's

cool too like Fatima was saying earlier

like you can know it's super valuable

like we actually first for like sprint

coordinators and stuff like we totally

encourage people to pair up together

because it's an awesome way to learn

because you can kind of not only are you

kind of vocalizing like the things that

you're trying to figure out like if

you're trying to figure out okay like I

need to apply this patch on to my local

environment so I can test it like if

you're working with someone else you're

not just gonna stare at the screen like

you're gonna verb lot and say like okay

what do we need to do and like how do we

find the documentation for this so I

think that's really valuable for a lot

of people I mean people learn in

different ways but I think that's often

super valuable and you can kind of help

each other out a lot because I at some

events there's not necessarily the ideal

ratio of mentors to sprint participants

as the other factor there so especially

if you're running like I've run a number

of Sprint's locally in our city and a

lot of the time it was I was the only

mentor it was me sort of me and half of

another person like they weren't busy or

something like that so I would happily

encourage people to like okay no you put

your laptop away like you find someone

else to work with and like find an issue

to work on and then they could help each

other like work through a lot of

problems that way and it took a little

bit of the burden off of me as a mentor

to help everyone all the time so it look

like instead of like everybody's

struggling with why man won't load up

yeah they're just a group all they can

look actually good

into interesting problems in one

absolutely yeah and that's that's a

great example yeah cuz like like it's

not necessarily a dead laptop that's

like that sucks but yeah sometimes it's

just like yeah if you can't get Drupal

if there's something wrong like not

working with your local environment you

don't have to like that doesn't like

ruin the sprint like you can still have

a you can still learn and contribute and

have an awesome time and maybe it's a

maybe it's a happy accident there was

there was one like sprint that I went to

early on when Drew Blake came out we're

like a lot of people were still on man

relief like yeah well and their website

had gone down yeah it totally was gone

something like that and like nobody

could get like the plug-in that would

update the PHP version to the right

words and the run Google eight alpha oh

yeah yeah those things happen in terms

of other things to bring power strips or

power bars what are you going to call

them are super valuable because

depending on the venue you may run out

of plug so you can it's good way to make

friends kind of snacks are good everyone

like snacks water bottle you know things

like that it's great some some Sprint's

will specifically post that they're kind

of family-friendly so you can you know

obviously bring if that's the case or

you can always ask the organizer like

you can bring your kids and you know

they might not necessarily sprint maybe

they will but you can you know bring

things to start it early bring this is

hardly really before you can just like

bring stuff for them to do or whatnot

yeah I don't mind kids yeah there was a

nice camp in 20

yeah and two kids in it both under 15

Patrick or yes yeah yes I think I was

there that was awesome

is there anything else that people

should bring here is that pretty good I

think we're good huh

why agency should why agencies should

carry things so that's I guess when I

put up this question I was thinking more

like when I go to his friends I usually

learn a lot and I find a new thing and

I've learned about it or I discover

something that I didn't know how to use

or someone explains it to me so I get a

lot of professional development out of

sprint and that's good for my agency

because when I get back to work I'm just

a little bit better than I was before I

went to this work that that for me is

very valuable

first onto a Drupal conference I was

working at an agency that wasn't all

that connected to really any open source

community I think that agency and myself

and perspective I've heard from other

developers who I'm deeply connected to

the community is there's a perspective

that there's like there is a they that

they are making these decisions they

decided to do drupal 8 and going to a

that's a great way to see like it's just

people these people are not nearly as

monolithic as it might appear on the

outside you have that first tuple con

that I went to the official sprint day

and then at 5:00 p.m. we had to leave

the University building that we were in

some people said let's go to this other

co-working space I figured I've got

nothing else to do my point isn't until

tomorrow morning shouldn't go and see

how long this goes and by like 10:00

p.m. or like I can't believe that people

still hanging a breeze it was web check

it was Merlin of Ko Ko cyril miles who

wrote views and panels and i realized

like i'm a very literal level Drupal is

written by the people who stay in the

room and my impression had been there's

this there's this other group that I'm

not a part of that are all computer

science experts they right through Paul

and they are an intimidating group

that's hard to approach and by by being

in that room it was very demystifying

and

it was it may be much more comfortable

to just hear like eclipse GC pitching

burl miles on Mon text admin this is I'm

just gonna use drop the courage like go

up a chair and say tell me about this

new module and that like I definitely

did not get a patch in the Drupal home

that day but just seeing using how it

worked was immensely helpful yeah

humanizes all the people who are behind

this stuff which I mean it's gonna make

you more confident that's worried about

that patch and like you can use you can

use like the skills and the like if

something is broken for you like a lot

of times bigger projects like you might

use that patch even if it's not yet just

because like you know you need to fix

something and like you know it's gonna

come out like in the next version of

Drupal but meanwhile we need to fix prod

[Laughter]

like a lot of people recently but like

there's a lot of people in core you know

like ideally like we're all actually

building real sites you know but like

building real sites and the people who

are you know more like alright I'm doing

this because either I can hate to do

this by my work or whatever loved it

your feedback for people who are using

actual sites for shine like you know

maybe it's like you asked you back maybe

it's that it breaks when I do this you

know I'm just gonna shake you you know

if that happens but like you know that

could be something that like people can

help you get out there so that would

actually help you fix it yeah so I like

I guess you have to try and tie that

back into the agency angle like you

almost have a way of

I'm trying to find the right word but

you almost have a way of influencing I

guess the the direction that things go

potentially like if you're in that

discussion that Steve was and then you

say like Oh actually like that totally

wouldn't work for like a hundred percent

of our client then like then they might

be like oh okay we need we need to go

back to the drawing board and or it

would make a great control module yeah

so it's I think it's valuable from from

that respect too but yeah I totally

agree like yes I think what I've found

is that kind of the skills that I've

gained like through mentoring at

Sprint's and stuff have directly applied

to my day job and like kind of pairing

or just just helping our developers at

at the at the agency like to be able to

help them solve problems one thing that

I always like to kind of pass on from

yes CTE Kathy I believe it's I can

remember how many seconds I think it's a

five second rule-- maybe but basically

if you if you are sort of pairing with

someone and you're kind of there driving

but you're kind of directing them you

can say you know let's say you you say

something like okay

enable the views module or something

like that and you can kind of like in

your head you can count count to five

and like let them do it like don't say

like click on extend and then or don't

say like open the terminal and type rush

yen like let them figure out a way to do

it

move over let me drive yeah don't don't

try and avoid doing that but it's I

think stuff like that is things like

that that I've learned I've also applied

to my day to day work in that you know

kind of letting people figure things out

for themselves or maybe just giving them

like a hint instead of like the full

answer like sort of like a breadcrumb

trail to follow me

I'm one of the junior and developers

that loves breadcrumbs like don't give

me the answer because I want to figure

it out but I really need something to

get moving and so that strategy works

really well it's also just the

transactional thing about social capital

and reciprocity if you just show up and

you know you help herbal miles or you

have a bunch of people you're more like

they'd have the confidence to even put

that requested they're more likely to

see you issue he wouldn't remember you

they're more these things a

transactional tit-for-tat

is certainly I don't know like what I

started to contribute when people saw me

more and therefore my ideas just got

more promoted and things happen quicker

so it's when you do have that one client

that has that one module where it was a

commerce upstream issue and that

claimant has 40 projects and 180 issues

he's tracking he may pay more attention

because I filed that issue and I helped

them before yeah that's the handle or

whatever it's definitely something I saw

when I was working at at Palantir net

get stuck on some specific site building

thing and one of my co-workers who are

looking much more prolific in the

contribute space and say oh just jump on

IRC and ask that person like yeah that

works that works for you why have you

got a thousand patches maybe a trick in

her in RAC two or we'd like paying the

person of those active in the community

it's crazy just saying a plus one from

someone else

all the sudden you got traction

another thing not directly related to

that conversation but I noticed that

like at work I'll work on back-end

things and then I would go just right to

me like oh I don't know how to like work

on core you know I had this like

intimidation factor rose like I don't

I'm not sure that I can do anything but

then the more I went to sprint and I

looked over people's shoulder at Dakota

I was like this is the same sort of code

that I play with that work and so I

could probably do some contribution here

and so there was a bit of like I thought

like kind of like that they but I

thought the code was like there was this

moment where I realized I was like it's

the same code or you know like you're

watching somebody like you know like

sitting here like I was working and

actually web chick has a really great

she's mentioning that I think at least

one of her talks but she has this blog

post that talks about how making

mistakes and not doing things perfectly

is actually better for in terms of like

kind of interacting with an open-source

community so it's like there's like

perfect Pat and sloppy Sam or something

like that yeah and so so perfect Pat

takes you know takes like whatever three

days and like write this amazing patch

with test coverage and like the coding

standards are perfect by themselves all

by themselves in their basement or

whatever and then basically it's it's

it's it's there and it kind of sits in

review and then sloppy sam comes and

writes this sort of like rates like an

almost more of like a proof-of-concept

patch but then like asks people to

review it and they if they're like oh

you know the coding standards needs to

need some work but like the the actual

concept is really good and like this

might work and

basically what the story how the story

ends up is like basically they end up

with a suit the two same patches but

sloppy Sam interacted with like three or

four different members of the community

and now kind of knows more people in the

community and has to your point has sort

of some social capital now because

they're now a name that people have seen

and it's not just like who is this

perfect Pat I've never heard of this

person and so even though like the patch

may be identical like maybe perfect

Pat's issue gets closed as a duplicate

because like they just kind of worked on

their own and like it's great but you

know this person kind of even though

they didn't really know what they were

doing they kind of got help and ended up

with the same result so I think that's

really good to keep in mind because I

think it can be intimidating to upload

your first patch like no doubt about

yeah some of the first patches that I

uploaded for Drupal core were like typo

fixes or like not even typos like

changing the capitalization one of the

first issues I worked on was changing

like the capitalization of the core

modules to be like I think it was like

title case instead of sentence case or

something like that so it would be like

update manager update manager

kind of thing well that process stuff

too like everybody who interacts and the

queue gets credit I'm working an issue

don't they taking like somebody put up a

patch and you just applied it locally

just because you didn't actually like

you know take that write more code

doesn't mean that you're not also

contributing yeah yeah totally yeah I

think that's something that's evolved

definitely for the better over the years

is the and there's there's always room

for improvement I think it's it's not

there quite yet 100% but yeah being able

to credit people who who have tested a

patch or you know update the issue

summary and be able to give them

credit for that is awesome especially

now because that shows up on your

drupal.org profile too so that can be

good for your career it's good for your

agency to go back to this point oh yeah

you can actually buy yourself versus for

work you can actually like have your

agency actually get credit for those

commits along with for your username

yeah and that I believe it's called the

Marketplace on drupal.org is sorted by

one of the sorts anyway is by most

number of contributions on drupal.org so

it's a you know it's sort of inexpensive

marketing I guess some agencies provided

as like kind of a per flesh that what

they do where people actually take some

amount of work time you know your back

or even like yeah if you say like oh you

know Friday afternoon you can you know

work on contributing like every Friday

afternoon or something I know some

companies do stuff like that

yeah totally and you get that visibility

get to meet people you get to learn

stuff you get to go places it's good for

your career it's good for your agency

good for you good for you man I should

go back to here one for one second okay

agency is doing something that's Drupal

sprinting helps improve his product

which helps you do your job better yeah

yeah like that's the obvious one and I

thought we would have a slide for to see

our favorite stories from this brand

room I guess my signature story is New

Orleans was my first yearbook on and

gone by myself

and I when I found out what the sprint

room was I was really intimidated but

somehow I think on Thursday I was

waiting for two people who had a meeting

in the sprint room so I went in there

and sat in a corner and they were having

a meeting and then woke up later and

left and the next day I was like sprit

day and I was like well I went to sleep

in there so I can now go in there

initially and I was like are you a cat

like a whiteboard yeah there's a very

serious discussion at night I don't I

did not understand a thing but I

remember being so intense and the next

day it was like happy people sitting at

tables I was like this is the DEF and

scale from what I experienced yesterday

and I sat at a table and I fixed a line

of documentation

it's very exciting for the records god

one four three zero five four five to

use proper name case four core modules

appears to have been your first on your

permanent record

yeah into the room like then like Lori

would come for you so I gave him

chickpeas like I it's become sort of a

hangout slash like I go in there just to

chill and eventually you take out my

laptop and so just making it more casual

is what worked for me to not be so

scared about like I'm to go in there I

have to contribute I have to write three

hundred lines of code you know so for me

that really helped that's my favorite

story look everybody who comes back to

us Brent has some kind of story about

how they felt welcomed and helped you

know and like I always try to think

about that you know whenever I'm doing

like the mentoring readings

being in there yeah that's like you know

if somebody did that for you you got you

gotta do that person for other people

you know like like people shouldn't feel

intimidated when they come in there or

like you know wondering or like can I

sit here is this okay yeah gotta like

reach out to like the new faces and I

can't I sit next to you or like just

higher Oh after my documentation

contribution I was a little bummed

because you know other people work on

really big things and I like watch your

anything really what did you do like

how'd it go doesn't going brutal on that

documentation everyone is like high-five

okay and it's like boosted my confidence

I felt very

and it happens when I was mentoring

Indiana

well like somebody closed a duplicate

issue and I was feeling bummed because I

was like you don't really get credit for

that it's like and and he was like pause

I need to send an email to my manager if

you take a screenshot like some emails

like I did a thing I would you reckon I

was like wow like that's the spirit yeah

thank you know we're all part of the

project that we know how great it is

right to go to a camp or go to a

DrupalCon and how inclusive we are and

and how we'd love to

anyone can come up and talk to us but

you don't have that experience and you

come to our event have you ever been to

a camp where it's not right I mean they

don't know they don't know what's gonna

happen so you have to reach out because

they could be really in a fearful place

where there's like a lot of crises or

even just insular you know I didn't show

up there Drupal cam for the first four

years of using Drupal because rural cast

and I just didn't want to be publicly

smashed

in Colorado I happen to be sitting in a

table next time well and web chickens

someone else were talking and I was like

okay he's a person and then all the

sudden like that fear just man great for

the work yeah I almost left that at

Drupal con San Francisco sprint because

somebody was like very closely policing

who was allowed in what room like either

you were allowed in the room for people

who had committed to core yet or you or

not and I was like hi then I'm like I

went for a walk there was a reason for

it it was because they wanted to

identify the people who are new and

mentor give them the mentoring they need

it but I felt like I could at that point

I had we did what I thought was enough

to control that felt like okay just

because I don't have a patch in core yet

do I really need to go back to what felt

like this other room that's it because

it's like really good intention sighs

yeah like just because somebody's needed

Drupal mm-hm

didn't mean they're new to like

development so like it is really good to

try to like regen people but they

shouldn't assume yeah that like people

that you're dealing with harm you yeah

you know no you don't know anything

about the people who are coming like

this felt like no you're not allowed yes

mistress

yeah yeah this is restricted area

what didn't work yeah I think we

probably like a lot of people have those

like I got scared away from this because

of inner issue curious like yeah that

and like by definition they're not here

to tell us that were the people who were

like you know literally or figuratively

in the room yeah yeah I had a bad

experience I it was like a reroll and I

was like oh look like a little bit

Africa New Orleans I was really excited

I did it the person who is running these

I don't even remember who it was just

didn't respond and then a couple of days

later I was like maybe I did it wrong so

I tried it again and then I also slept

like hey I don't know what I'm doing so

like if I did it wrong like let me know

and then someone else posted another V

role and immediately I like the same day

the person responded and the

conversation continued between the two

of them totally and then I remember like

I just like set the link to someone I

had met in your Orleans and I was like

hey like what happened here and there

really and if you really want feedback

you can just personally did I not do the

patch right and so that was kind of for

me like it was a point where I was like

this is scary now how you doing yeah

that totally contributes to our long

tale this year doesn't it that's like

you get a lot of people and who like

interacted in the issue queue or at

specific wants yeah you know and then

we're like what the hell and then maybe

they didn't do it again yeah yeah yeah

we have to keep that in mind like every

time that we

do anything like this you like you code

aside like you want to keep people

around yeah yeah you know that's like

what what are we really sprinting on are

we sprinting on the code will be

sprinting on to community are we trying

to yeah like I kind of think of Sprint's

is just like practice for when were not

on the same room like yeah yeah yeah

yeah the successful sprint isn't the one

with the most patches necessarily it's

the one that like gets people

comfortable with like you know things

are working and it's yeah just kind of a

way to like practice what you're gonna

do when you're not in the same bread

that agency around a little dog don't

force everybody to personally mentored

into it yeah I agree I don't know I

there's one that comes to mind but I

don't think it's really helpful so well

okay I guess I'll try and pivot so like

my experience with sprinting was based

was sort of that my introduction to

contribution happened online not at the

Drupal event so I went to core

contribution mentoring in IRC and that's

sort of how I got all boarded into the

drupal.org issue queue and how to make

patches and rerolls and all that kind of

stuff so I was able to kind of learn in

in the comfort of my own home and

then I kind of just kept going to that

it was every week and then eventually

they got sick of me and asked me to help

mentor other people and so the first

sprint that I actually attended I I

ended up mentoring at so that was kind

of crazy just too it was kind of a lot

to do all at once

but like even though I was scared like

it went fine and I one thing that I had

to get past with sprint mentoring is

sort of the feeling of kind of like I

was mentioning earlier having to kind of

help everyone all the time that was

something hard that was hard for me to

get pass and like but I think it's

actually more helpful to let people be

able to solve their own problems without

always kind of needing the the crotch or

whatever you want to call it of being

like hey experienced person like or

mentor how you know how do I do this

thing but it's kind of like you know

teaching them how to fish rather than

like handing them to fish like like the

trial run yeah yeah like you're breaking

down the process for people and where

they can like reference like what let

them what status issue it's so scary I'm

not like online topic I guess like we

could talk about like IRC and slack and

like all the places yeah people can't

physically get to one of these type of

events yeah or even or even ways to kind

of keep work going in between yeah

actually yeah yeah yeah and there's like

a couple of slack channels on the main

Drupal site like three pull down slack

they condense it all into the

contributions that

consumer test this yeah yeah look a lot

of people a lot of people are like major

contributors of like never been to

DrupalCon you know obligations like you

can still be involved you know in Drupal

I had a really deep level you know if

you can like make connections with

people online and in these places yeah

IRA she's not totally abandoned the

slack is pretty active and there's

there's that rocket shot

doesn't have to happen on a spare room

at a camper conference definitely yeah

yeah I think often times like a sprint

can be sort of a jumpstart for for like

let's say an initiative or something in

in certain cases like especially I got a

DrupalCon when you've just got a lot of

bodies poor wording but bear with me you

can you can actually get a lot done like

Rubicon Portland we were kind of up

against the deadline of getting twig

into core and we ended up a group of us

ended up recruiting all these front-end

developers to do performance testing for

each and every twig template that we

were putting into core and I was like I

was a crazy amount of work and like each

person had to set up XH prov and all

these different things on their laptop

but people were like hey I want to help

and they they did it and it was awesome

so we had like a twig army but yeah like

it's it's pretty amazing

even though that that's not always the

point or that's not always how it goes

like sometimes things just line up and

it's crazy what you can get done if you

have enough people and who are willing

to help

so we're out of time yeah thank you for

coming it doesn't does it does anyone

else I want to say thanks we have two

minutes no going once