thanks for sticking around so we are
here today to speak about establishing a
system of effective cross-functional
communication and our experience is
going to come primarily from an
engineering standpoint with a little bit
of experience design but what we have to
share can really be applied to any team
and before we get to our intro slide yes
we are both with bounteous you've
probably seen at least one of our
company slides over the last two days
and yes we're hiring that this is
Katrina
she's a front-end developer she has a
liberal arts education from University
of Wisconsin she's been at bounteous for
seven years working remotely her focus
is on a e/m which is adobe experience
manager she does a front-end for that as
I alluded to she is a badger from
Wisconsin and if she were to be sorted
at Hogwarts she would be Ravenclaw and
this is Danny he is a front-end
developer with an engineering background
he has been with bounteous for the last
nine years primarily focusing on the
Drupal content management system
he's a University of Iowa graduate his
Hogwarts house is Hufflepuff which also
makes him a badger
we're exact peers despite our
engineering versus English backgrounds
we both think with both sides of our
brains we view ourselves as translators
between engineers and design we're
ambassadors that can speak to both the
technical specifications and the design
aesthetics and this requires us to share
a common vocabulary that both teams can
understand and to empathize with the
challenges that both teams face
so acknowledging the different
perspectives of these teams how to
create how do we create a system where
we can communicate effectively we start
by recognizing that we have the same end
goals and then when there's some
differences of opinion we approach them
with inquiry instead of advocacy we're
trying to avoid that us-versus-them
mentality that can throw a wrench into
collaboration Andy and I have never
worked on the same project together
we're each bringing our unique
experiences to this we've identified
some common factors we practice what
we're about to preach and as competency
in tech leads we bring this to our teams
and our purpose today is to share what
we've learned and what we continue to
learn the agenda today is we're going to
go over some communication ground rules
we're gonna go over disconnect points
next we're going to talk about bad
communication and constructive language
and finally we'll have some recaps and
we'll put it up for questions so in
order to create an environment for
effective communication where people are
receptive to other points of view we
have a few ground rules the first ground
rule is always the soon positive intent
I might have strong opinions or feel
heated in the moment if you've seen some
of my talks I get really passionate
about things but we need to be able to
trust each other that we're on the same
same side that we're not trying to
subvert or mislead even though I am
coming at you with a lot of passion
we're together gonna do the right thing
and this is really key to how we work at
bumpiness so here we've got a drawing in
which you might see a duck you might see
a rabbit and now that I've pointed out
that both are there you're probably
gonna see both of them none of these
perspectives is wrong
it's our prior experiences that are
influencing our perception of the world
and we've discovered that most
disconnects in communication happened
due to these differences in experience
and the assumptions that we build as a
result so it's our role as active
participants to ensure that we're not
introducing any judgment of those
perspectives into our communication
since Andy and I straddled the world of
design and engineering we understand the
benefits and the challenges of working
with both teams and seeking inquiry into
those perspectives helps us to
understand a third perspective that of
the client
so let's take a little deeper look into
two of those perspectives here on the
screen we've got a fairly typical
mapping of all the processes and
technical layers that can go into
building a web application we'll call it
a stereotypical engineers view of the
world you've got content management
systems api's messaging inventory
there's a lot of things there you can
get pretty complex there's a lot of
critical details and precise steps
involved in building that perfect system
it takes a lot of technological effort
to get something like this stood up oh
and I guess there's a little user in
there somewhere that small icon is up by
the web application box that's this user
of this entire complex system her
perspective is a blind spot if we don't
understand what that user is trying to
do how do we know that we've done a good
job this is the designers view on the
screen what you're seeing is a gentleman
who's holding the phone and he's
laughing and a woman likes oh they're
just having a really great time so the
designers view is really focused on the
people where everyone's having a great
time interacting with the perfect amount
so in the previous site slide the user
was almost absent here in this picture
the phone isn't even in focus so for
design it's difficult to make that
technology invisible to create those
delightful interactions and for
engineering it's easy to lose
perspective of that user among all that
complexity again neither view is wrong
the hardest work is balancing between
both of these views there's a lot of
technical complexity to enable these
great experiences we need to really
embrace the duck and the rabbit and that
really takes communication
so another guiding principle that is
successful to communication is the
responsibility sorry it's the
responsibility of the person who's
transmitting that message as well as the
person that's receiving that message you
have to listen to understand and not to
interrupt we're not just waiting to
interject with our own thoughts I'm very
guilty of that are very passionate about
what I want to say but it really takes
that communication goes both ways it's
not a passive skill it has an outcome
and it has an end goal it's not just
about hearing ourselves talk so in her
book lean in and Sheryl Sandberg noted
the ability to listen is as important as
the ability to speak miscommunication is
a two-way street
communication and miscommunication are
two sides of the same coin so this idea
could be its own presentation and will
definitely touch on this a bit later but
in short if you're in a conversation and
there's a miscommunication you are
partly responsible everybody in that
conversation is so if I'm trying to
share an idea with Andy and I need to be
responsible for making sure that my
intent is received and heard and it's
Andy's role as a listener to ensure that
if he if he didn't quite get things if
he didn't maybe he misheard maybe he
just didn't understand he needs to
inform me of that so that we can settle
things out now that doesn't mean that
we're seeking to reach agreement 100% of
the time or actively avoiding conflict
right which brings us to our third
ground rule
the conflict is not inherently better
aiming to avoid miscommunication is
different than seeking 100% agreement
healthy conflict is absolutely part of
the creative process you know Andy and I
might disagree with each other with our
project colleagues or even with the
client all the time this is
fundamentally not and should not be a
problem
why because even if we have these
different points of view we should all
be working towards the same end goals
and if there is conflict we need to be
conscious of it and avoid going into
battle
so in work and in life we should be
approaching conflict by seeking to
understand where our differences lie and
trying to find some common ground
so we're all here because we build
things for people for that stick figure
and user and we want to be better at it
so we think that building great products
and services requires balancing three
points of view while also pushing the
boundaries of innovation and the Design
Thinking here is human centric problem
solving we converge all of the different
ways that a problem can be solved one to
help businesses focus on things that
their users actually want that we can
build to to leverage technology and not
just based on what's the easiest or the
cheapest or the most fun or the fastest
to build but using what it takes to
solve human problems in the businesses
domain at 3:00 to focus the human not
just on delightful experiences but to
feasibly deliver those experiences using
the technology to meet the needs of the
business if this sounds like a lot it is
it's natural to have a lot of tension
between those three different points of
view and this is where healthy conflict
can lead to great products
translation so each of these three
points of view has a tendency to view
their own domain as the centre point
around which the others need to adjust
so for us engineers in the technology
sphere it could be pretty easy to dig in
our heels on the technical reasons to do
or to not do something the problem is
that this is approaching communication
from an advocacy standpoint we're
failing to inquire into the problems
that the other spheres are trying to
solve or or have and if we silo like
this it makes it harder to find optimal
solutions and harder to build great
products inquiry on the other hand
enables us to shift our own views to
meet at that center point where we can
enable all three spheres that space is
where we make great products and where
we make great teams happen we each need
to take the responsibility to get to
that point by asking ourselves about the
problems we're trying to solve and
aligning on our common goals for
outcomes
unresolved conflicts create real
problems and rework I have a tendency to
say sure it's fine
and really it's fine until it isn't
disconnects and miscommunication when it
within a team don't just make it harder
to work together they impact the
products that we make for those people
in the next few slides we're going to we
made up a few scenarios and we're sure
you're gonna think through a few more
but we're gonna view them as system of
interactions like dialogues for people
so you can get the understanding of it
so imagine that you want to order a
pizza and you want to pick up the pizza
so you go online place the order it asks
you where you are and that completely
makes sense because you want to pick it
up you're where you are then it asks for
your full address but that really
doesn't make sense because you want to
pick it up maybe you're in left and
doesn't matter or maybe you're in a
hotel and you have no idea the exact
address but you saw the store across the
street so most likely if you called the
store for a carry-out order they're not
gonna ask you for this information they
want your name they want your phone
number they want to know if you want
thin crust and extra cheese one can
imagine that the business might not have
had a discussion with the technology
team about reusing some code and nobody
considers the very human implications of
going in and picking up an order imagine
that you want to buy furniture for your
office your home you're asked you want
upholstery occasional or case goods
unless you work in the industry you have
no idea what this means or how that
decision impacts exactly what products
you might want to buy during the
purchase so here the business point of
view is again getting in the way of the
human experience the company's internal
jargon is bleeding out onto the website
and it doesn't make any sense to their
end users but even if we cleaned up the
interface to change the the verbiage you
know change it from case codes to to
what have you if your data is still
organized in this way it can still
create a disconnect
neither the business
technology is again considering the
human experience of shopping for
furniture so this brings us to our
fourth ground rule don't fall for the
illusion of communication so sometimes
it might seem like people are
effectively communicating because we're
having meetings we're sending emails
things are being said only for some some
stressful and costly realizations to
happen down the line often when it's too
late to easily resolve the
miscommunication some common examples of
when the illusion of communication might
be occurring is if all of your
conversations are overly optimistic
maybe there's the appearance of no
conflict maybe you're just avoiding
having some of those really hard
conversations so how do we know if
there's a disconnects in our
communication let's start with a logical
framework so we have four quadrant and
for every communication we're gonna have
a yes or a No if there is an actual
disconnect and at the bottom we have a
yes or no if there's a perceived
disconnect so on the screen then the
lower left quadrant is discussion
there's an actual disconnect that you're
aware of that's great at least in an
environment positive intent you can work
through the disagreement via discussion
moving up to the top left corner where
we have clarification sometimes it might
seem like there's a disconnect but
really there's not those conversations
might start with people approaching it
in disagreement but ideally someone has
an inkling that maybe you're saying the
same thing this is a great time to
really slow down and learn the
vocabulary or perspective that you just
missed
moving down on the screen and the bottom
right quadrant is the illusion of
communication it's the most subtle and
most damaging sometimes there may be a
disconnect but both parties just don't
know it yet this is a this is harder to
spot but not impossible an example is an
engineering team says that the designer
oh we didn't estimate time to build that
never ever been said before I told you
that would take more time no you said it
would be hard not that it would take
more time and cost more hard is not
those two things those are very
different things
and this can lead to unresolved
ambiguity and we'll talk a little bit
more about how to detect that in warning
science and how to get out of that top
right on the screen in the top right
quadrant it is a highly functional team
so you're a highly functional team
spends a lot of time in this quadrant no
one perceives a disconnect in there are
no disconnects note that this doesn't
happen by accident it takes work and
also want to make this really clear this
is not a magical zone of no conflict
what's great about this diagram is that
when you find yourself in one of those
quadrants you're gonna want to move to
another quadrant and ideally get to a
high-functioning team so again it
doesn't mean that you're always
high-functioning you just get back there
quickly it takes vigilance and it takes
recognizing where you stand in the
diagram patrina yeah how many times have
you been not a highly functional team
well I mean you know there's been
several times in a team as if it's toes
into that quadrant but the most
effective team I was on was so good that
we accidentally recruited a dev away
from a client
so one of these teams look like highly
functional teams they're usually diverse
they're lean there's a lot of trust if
there's too many voices at the table if
we're siloing our work with not a lot of
transparency if there's micromanaging
from the top or what-have-you
or if the team is just too new and that
Trust hasn't been established it's
really hard to stay in that that top
right quadrant for too long
now that we have our ground rules let's
discuss areas in a project where
communication disconnects are most
likely to happen on the screen there's a
graphic and at the top the graphic is a
very heavy rock on top of a man the man
is reaching down to a woman and holding
her hand and trying to lift her up but
what the man can see is in a cave
there's a snake that's reaching out and
biting her arm what's interesting about
this is the man can't see the snake and
the woman can't see the rock so the
woman might say why isn't he lifting me
up any faster and the man might say why
is she keep pulling away I'm trying to
help her they're both wondering because
they're trying to help each other out so
the point of this graph and this is a
pretty graphical representation of it
but what really is trying to say is
sometimes we can't see each other's
obstacles we need to learn to understand
each other's perspective and not only
that it's a two-way street we have to
communicate our perspective clearly to
the other person so as Andy said in our
intro in the seven years that I've been
with bounteous I've worked entirely
remotely in fact a great deal of our
company is remote in one form or another
either because we're we're gonna be the
team that is spread out across multiple
time zones or like me they they live and
work full-time from a city in which we
don't have a brick-and-mortar office so
during our time as full-time or
part-time remote employees we've
identified what we're calling the three
DISA's of remote communication the first
is disengagement withdrawing from
involvement in an activity or a group
this can include personal disinterest
burnout boredom as well as some
unintentional omission
that is being inadvertently excluded
from a conversation here's an example
I'm assuming we've all been on a
conference call where you've got one
group dialing in from the same room and
you know maybe some other folks are
calling it from the road they're working
from home maybe they're at a client and
once that call is over conversations can
still continue among the group that's in
that that physical room together and if
those folks are in conscientious about
relaying important information or
decisions that have been made among that
group to the people who had to hang up
or maybe couldn't attend that's a point
of miscommunication
the second is distraction so if you
don't have somebody staring over your
shoulder or sitting right next to you
nobody who can see your screen it's not
as obvious that your attention is
elsewhere it's really really easy to get
distracted by slack messages or
responding to emails or you know poking
at that line of code that just keeps
throwing a building or giving in to
distraction is allowing ourselves to
become lazy in communication and it
really opens the door for for
disconnects the third and the third is
distrust so the work involved in
avoiding disengagement and and resisting
the temptation of distractions is that
can make a remote work challenging
enough but if there's distrust amongst a
team communication can become become
toxic really fast tone and context
become incredibly important you know
especially for those people that we
don't see in front of the coffee maker
every day earlier today JD talked about
how easy it is to miss read a simple
question as aggressive or accusatory
without careful attention to what we're
saying and how we're saying it we can
easily create that forth this disconnect
so speaking of tone and language let's
take a look at how we recognize some bad
communication patterns and take action
to improve kanji that conscious of time
we're going to go through some of these
a little bit quickly and there's a lot
of text on the screen but these are some
phrases that might be a sign that your
team needs to do some work to improve
their communication also the slides are
up on the session so feel free to
download them again we're gonna go
through these kind of quickly but
miscommunication can happen when you
find yourself saying something is either
good or bad
something is really important they
approved it that's hard
so if you were in heathers talk about
accessibility for PM's she touched on
how exclusion can happen when we develop
for our own biases a lot of these
miscommunications come from the point of
view of opinions judgments they're not
facts they're focused on the individual
instead of on the whole team and the
whole team's goals and outcomes using
some of these phrases can easily exclude
folks from the conversation
communication shuts down fast when you
hear or find yourself saying and as I've
said before I I told that because I said
so that's just common sense right we say
these things when we're frustrated
because we perceive somebody else's
breakdown in communication whether it's
real or not and we're putting the blame
on that instead of addressing our
failure to communicate our message these
phrases can make us sound
impatient or superior and they present
us as caring more about ourselves than
about the outcomes following could be
warning signs the communication is only
happening in a single direction you're
going to want to perk up to these
warning signals when you hear or say I
told them that it was in an email I gave
them a link to the wires that's my
personal favorite
so these phrases are illusions because
they're based on the assumption of
effective communication and they exhibit
a lack of failure to confirm again they
put the responsibility and sometimes the
blame on other people and show off our
own lack of ability to take initiative
so let's be clear using any of the
phrases from the previous three slides
is not communication because there's no
ownership
so touching back to those quadrants of
actual versus perceived disconnects it
is possible to intercept some
communication behaviors and to move
between the quadrants to get to where
you want so watching for those signals
and anti-patterns and miscommunications
it's just the first step now we'll give
you some alternative language that can
help you and your team move towards
highly functional and again I will be
reading through all of these let's be
highlighting a few of them so if you
hear things like good bad this is the
right way to do it
there's no time that's hard
you might try to reshape the
conversation by probing for more detail
quantifying some of the impact of
changes giving and receiving read back
what I hear you saying or getting
confirmation that everybody's on the
same page seeking to understand helps
our communication turn from me based
outcome focused
communication anti-patterns are often
knee-jerk reactions to a prior
miscommunication or an attempt to avoid
conflict so things like that's just
common sense I'm really busy I told them
that we can work out some resolution
here by first acknowledging that there
might be a disconnect in our
communication we can reposition conflict
by saying things like it sounds like
this is important to you can you help me
understand the urgency we're explaining
what you mean if there's a breakdown in
your common language and here we do need
to be open to re-evaluation of work
based on current conditions perhaps the
context or our understanding of the
outcomes have changed we might be
missing information
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so if we consider effective
communication to be successful and
parting of ideas these illusions clearly
indicate a failure to communicate so
instead of jumping to a position of
Defense with phrases like it was in the
wires they were in the room I told them
that find out if your message was
actually understood make sure that
everybody has the same shared
understanding get confirmation that
somebody agreed to what you think they
and if there's a miscommunication take
ownership I'm sorry it looks like I
didn't define that well enough let me
try to ensure the success of your
communication
recap we're gonna create the right
environment for communication ultimately
we succeed where we fail as teams great
teams have multiple skill set you've
heard a lot about diversity you know
even in your teams of design or
engineering all those different
viewpoints so you need to take pride in
the team's results and not just
individual contributions not just one
rock star on the team it takes
everybody's perspective and a lot of
work to make that happen it doesn't
matter if you see the duck or the rabbit
you have to work together to balance
both of those viewpoints so creating the
environment that fosters good
communication really comes back to our
ground rules always assume positive
intent communication and
miscommunication it's two ways don't
avoid conflict but seek inquiry and not
advocacy and don't fall for the illusion
of communication just talking is not
communicating this is hard it takes a
lot of work and our hope is that you can
use what we've shared today to help make
you and your team's communication more
effective thank you any questions
important that both sides take
responsibility on clear communication
the other situation in which we have
something
say something and another Polly's
ever have
and come back later and have wasted like
this a waste of time saying
that's already presented how do you
address that how do you make it so that
that person starts understanding you
because at that point and what point is
it now on you and now on the other
person that is the question was I'll
rephrase it for the recording is at what
point somebody if it keeps happening
over and over again
what are avenues to address that and
work towards resolution um so I mean
it's it's always gonna be the
responsibility of both parties of course
so you know for you or yeah you I assume
I would try rephrasing the communication
perhaps there's something in the the way
that it's being delivered maybe maybe
they don't remember things if they're
hurt but they do if they're seen so you
know get it in writing instead share
meaning notes after the fact
and maybe there's a time of day that I
was actually just gonna say that yeah is
I found every within the past year as
has been some challenges for me and I
found every time I was the most
frustrated in the worst situations I was
in wasn't always Friday at 2:00 o'clock
after a really long week after a really
hard sprint everytime so what I'm what
I'm suggesting is watch for when this is
happening is it at the start of a
project is it at the end of a project is
that at the start of the sprint or the
end of the spring if it's at the start
of a project maybe you want to look at
setting ground rules and have a kickoff
or a project if that's that's an
opportunity if it's at the end of a
project perhaps having a retro about it
a say French Rome and just see how that
helps that's another way that other
people can give that feedback and it
might be heard
communicating they don't something
they've gone through
like that's how do you like obviously
you can't do that
one percent of the time when you men or
even like 50 percent of the time and
like there's but like most of time along
the time you don't
it's like routine stuff that short works
out but like it's like that there's a
not insignificant like gray area how do
you how do you navigate that yes how do
you tell whether you're doing too much
or not enough sure sure so the question
was when do you validate the
communication when do you get
confirmation that your message has been
received so like you said there's a
there's a lot of gray areas and there's
a lot of you know wrote routine
day-to-day conversations you know and
again I hesitate to put a value on it
but if a conversation is really
important if a decision is important ask
for validation
I will say it can be exhausting it can
also feel like you're putting the other
person down say what I hear you saying
is and that just might turn into an
automatic trigger for that person to let
go off again on something so try a few
different ways it can be exhausting but
hopefully the effort keep giving it the
effort and learn from that like wow that
that really didn't go good singing a
slack message at 4:55 when I know that
he has to go coaches gets his team time
like that can wait so again trying to
see where that culpability is or maybe
this person is just always set off by
any slack message ever and just doesn't
you need to find out how to work with
that person so being interrupted all the
time maybe they don't know how to smooth
slack maybe they don't understand about
communication within the team may be
asked to move the stand up because the
stand up they're just half half tired at
the afternoon you know there's different
ways to look at those things
ensure that it gets there and to try and
think creatively through it I know I
talked a lot with Katrina to works
through a lot of this and just talking
with a colleague can really help give
you that outside perspective because
when you're in it you're in it you know
it gets hot in that room it feels easy
to talk to somebody else and that's
another suggestion if you can get a
third party involved because then
there's someone else there who can say
yes this was what we agreed to so we
don't work together we already like
together yes if you are going into you
like if you're being deployed into a
client in
any experience that you've had where you
are something some miscommunications or
conflicts that have existed between like
marketing and IT and now outside here in
their space I can you experience that I
can you speak to that question is
parachuting into another team that is
experiencing miscommunication I can't it
is it is definitely a challenge because
you don't have any of the backstory you
don't have the politics you don't know
where the landmines are so here asking a
lot of questions using you know and
being very conscious of the language
that you're using in the tone involved
in that can can really get you the kind
of information that you need or at least
get you started on the path to having
those conversations that can be more
effective um I find that maybe finding
the one or two people on the team who
have been there a long time
just picking their brain getting that
information getting that back story that
history can really help me get a sense
of what I might be walking into quick
story and then oh because my point had a
call with somebody that came into the
team and that had been on the client
call and person spoke and said but what
normally this person says and the call
got over the person immediately I got
the slap call right away like that guy
hates us like what's going on is like oh
no that's that's exactly what I would
expect in this situation like that's
that's how we work through problems so
didn't quite understand that that was
how as on the outside what felt kind of
not a great situation it actually led
towards resolution and a kite can kind
of be at the cost and is it like have I
just been beaten down enough where I
just take it but I know the I where it
comes from is that trust slide I have a
lot of trust in where he's coming from
and there's a lot of consistency that
we've had and and I'm not gonna move
away from that trust so establishing
trust is hard when you parachute in but
the other thing I always say is just be
fair be human and that's an easy
perspective when you're new because you
just walk in the room and you don't know
all the subversive gonna the subversive
things that are the arrows that can be
fired back and forth that can easily
sink an idea like you that's a big
advantage but at the same time that's a
great advantage for you to just call it
what it is like whether it's fair or not
so it's not for you to point out the
disconnects just be fair and try and get
more understand it's now that you have
to say oh this guy just really blows up
when he gets angry that doesn't mean
that you can't come at him you know with
with what the problem is so that makes
sense
any other questions I think we're at
time resources that you suggest to read
the book radical Tanner question was
resources about communication radical
theatres great places
all right thanks everybody thanks